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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

Gordon MacDonald alluded to the two-Government situation. I have a quick question. I suspect that Colin Borland and Sara Thiam will have a clear view about this, but to what extent do the people with whom you interact, such as your members—I know that it is different for you, Sara—understand what is going on at a macroeconomic perspective and the levers that reside therein and what is going on at a microeconomic perspective, as well as what is devolved and reserved, the resultant potential impact on policy for business and the potential limitations? I am just looking for a general sense.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

No. I mean people with whom you interact. Perhaps it is more a question for Colin Borland. Why do your members need to care, except that it is a salient point when you think about financing for certain types of businesses? We know that, across the UK, the financial sector is still terribly geared to traditional-type businesses. There is a massive gap there, which, legally the Scottish Government cannot address. It can only influence it. I am trying to get a sense of how much your members understand that or whether they care, because it is a salient point.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

I sense that, with some of these open-ended questions, we are still framing the scope of our inquiry. I have a very simple question. We have talked quite a lot about process and procedures and so on, but my question is more fundamental. With the advent of the new deal for business, are you able to say that Government gets business—yes or no?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

I am reading that in my head as the Government starting to get business—you can tell me if I am wrong.

Colin, can you come on this as well?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

What I am saying is—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

What about Sara Thiam and Colin Borland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, cabinet secretary. Thank you for joining us. I note, just as an observation, that the language in the general report did not feel as though it absolutely cut to the heart of the urgency that the committee feels about the need for really good financial planning in the future. I will highlight one sentence in the Government’s response:

“As part of the planning process, my officials will consider the potential to pilot a ‘zero-based budgeting approach’”.

I would say that

“consider the potential to pilot”

was probably the most egregious phrase. That wording does not exactly set the heather on fire.

I have a few general questions. We have been clear in expressing our concerns about the publication of strategic financial documents, and there is a sentence in the Government’s response that says:

“I am also aware that setting out multi-year spending plans ahead of a Scottish election could restrict the options of a new administration.”

Is that just an excuse for not doing anything? Surely any new Administration would just tear up any plans if it was so minded.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

I have another wee point to make. I just want to check the 60 per cent figure for employer NICs, although I appreciate that the numbers are still fluid, as was picked up by the convener earlier. A couple of weeks ago, COSLA was claiming that it had a shortfall of £265 million, with the Scottish Government giving it £144 million. Those figures were quoted a couple of weeks ago, before the recess. Of course, that is only 54 per cent of the costs. I appreciate that there are other factors at play in how the 60 per cent figure is derived.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

For the record, I look forward to hearing more about the specific data, because that underpins everything.

I have a couple of quick questions. In our report, we expressed a view about having a wider review of the fiscal framework, but the Government’s response said simply “Noted”, which is brief in the extreme.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

I understand all of that, but there is something that jumped out at me. Given the sense of urgency that the committee feels, in caring so much that setting out multiyear spending plans could restrict the options of a new Administration, it worries me that the wording provides an excuse not to do enough. We appreciate that there is an election coming up, but surely any Administration, regardless of its colour, should share a sense of urgency and concern equally. The need for some initiatives—public service reform, for example—has certainly been expressed on a cross-party basis, so I thought that that statement in the response was very odd.