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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, everybody. I have a couple of areas that I want to look at, but, first of all, I want to ask quite an open, exploratory question.

To what extent is the issue here the requirement for skills that enable young people to use AI effectively—you have started to allude to some of that with regard to the different ages and stages of learning—and to what extent is it knowledge? My personal view is that acquisitive skills and curiosity will be utterly vital, because it is only through curiosity that young people will be able to learn the skills to interrogate and question things. However, you are the experts and I would appreciate hearing the views of Ollie Bray and perhaps Judy Robertson on that question, first of all, although I know that you will all want to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Chris, does what Helena Good has just described play into your earlier points about assessment, measurement and how things are going to radically shift?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I agree with you, and you have neatly led on to my final question. How on earth do we begin to tackle the challenge? I am mindful that, as parliamentarians, we need to support the education sector to keep up with the pace of change, which is startling and almost unfathomable at this point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I am aware that our Scottish AI Alliance is underpinned by ethics. It is a key part of the framework, although one can then argue, “Well—whose ethics?”, which is, of course, an entirely different discussion.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I know that Helena Good and Chris Ranson want to come in, too, but on that point about age-appropriate use of generative AI, in particular, I would appreciate your thoughts on key roles in that respect. It was mentioned earlier that the applications themselves have some controls in place, but I am interested in how we enable youngsters at different ages and stages to develop some of that thinking and trust. Indeed, how trust develops in young people is a critical issue. I would appreciate your thoughts on that, Professor Robertson, before I bring in everyone else.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Helena and Chris, would you like to come in here?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Artificial Intelligence and Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Meeting of the Parliament

Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

I have listened with interest to the member’s highly selective quotes and statistics, and I am wondering whether, at any point in his speech, he will come up with positive measures to start to address some of the complexity in the situation or whether he is just going to moan.

Meeting of the Parliament

Education

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Michelle Thomson

No one in Scotland can be satisfied with the latest PISA ratings data. However, given long-term trends, no one among the developed economies can be satisfied either. In this short speech, I will explain that more.

I have been impressed by some of the qualitative analysis in the PISA report and some of the external expert commentary, including from Andreas Schleicher, the highly regarded director for education and skills at the OECD. However, we should not ignore the fact that we must take care when interpreting some of the statistical data. Indeed, a recent article in the Financial Times put it this way with regard to data for English schools:

“critics argue that Pisa rankings give a misleading picture as the difference in performance between some countries is not statistically significant and methodological issues mean the headline scores can be over-interpreted.”