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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you. Stacey Dingwall, I put the same question to you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

The first thing is to put in place the data collectors, never mind moving on to interrogating the data. Of course, you can ask a question even if people do not answer it. I fully understand that. However, asking the question in the first place is at least a start.

Carolyn Currie, you have been in front of the committee before and we share some areas of interest around these matters. A lot of the pressures that are being faced now are international. Inflation is high everywhere, and everyone is being subjected to the same energy restrictions, but the UK has some special and unique challenges, which we have talked about.

What current international best practice in policy could you highlight? Are there creative ideas? It feels to me a bit like groundhog day. Could you give some insight into what is happening internationally?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

It is the last day before we all break up for Christmas and Santa has not arrived at my household yet, so could you give a public commitment on behalf of the SCDI that you will action that after this meeting, so that the next time that you come in front of the committee and I ask whether you routinely disaggregate all data by gender in all surveys, you can say, “Yes”?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

We know the failure rate for new businesses; most new businesses do not make it beyond the three-year point regardless of who runs them. What is your anecdotal sense of the failure rate for new businesses that have been set up by women over the past three years? I know that we do not have the data, which is why I am asking for a more anecdotal sense.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

Before I ask Carolyn Currie a couple of questions, I have a standard question for the other witnesses. Do you routinely disaggregate all data in all surveys by gender?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

I have a final wee question. The women in enterprise review, led by Ana Stewart, was launched—I am guessing—in April this year. How actively have you been able to contribute to that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, panel. It is nice to see you all. We are dancing around a lot of similar areas; such is the advantage of the convener that he often asks questions that I might have liked to ask. I will follow on.

We have already heard a lot about limitations in terms of lack of borrowing powers, capital reduction and so on. I find myself thinking that, in terms of both the areas that we have talked about so far—a public sector reform programme and how to drive up productivity—surely, in behavioural terms, the fixed budget, limited borrowing powers and limited fiscal levers must influence the behavioural ambition of the Scottish Government for making a change. Such is the complexity of unintended consequences. That is the case for any Government, but surely it must be so much more of a factor for the Scottish Government. Perhaps Professor Muscatelli could give us some thoughts on that first.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

Following on from that, it is obvious that a reform programme can bring efficiencies, but there is a cost to those efficiencies. Where there is a fixed budget, that cost is not so much in costs as in a reduction in spend in other areas that leads into this cycle. I would like to hear your reflections on how a fixed budget makes for real limitations in any public sector reform programme.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

When I read the letter, I saw that your title says “Sex/Gender Data”, and then you point out that

“Social Security Scotland have indicated that they would be able to provide the application form they collected on the sex, covering up to October 2022, in February 2023.”

I am trying to understand about accuracy in data terms. I am aware that we do not want to go into other big debates; that is not my intention here. The reason why I am asking is that we know that boys are statistically more likely to have learning disabilities, particularly with regard to neurodivergence. Therefore, getting the data collection correct, and linking it to biological sex. must surely be vital.

I have read your letter. You use the terms “sex” and “gender” interchangeably, and you refer to Social Security Scotland. Setting aside any other debate, the data that is collected will ultimately be used to project costs. We know that a range of factors could lead to social security payments going up, so it would be useful if you could set out what you think is happening and what will happen in future. What are your data needs? This is a question about data.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Michelle Thomson

How did we get to a position in which a fundamental item of data ceased to become important? That strikes me as utterly fundamental, both for assessing current spend and for future forecasting. For example, we might come across a disease that we do not yet know about and that has a proclivity for one sex or the other. We have to be able to project. How did we arrive at this position?