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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

Our second agenda item is to take evidence from the Scottish Human Rights Commission on its report “‘Tick Tock…’ A human rights assessment of progress from institutionalisation to independent living in Scotland”, which examines Scotland’s progress on moving from institutional models of care towards independent living and how the current practices and policies uphold the rights of disabled people. Members might also wish to explore further questions on another recent SHRC report, “Economic, social and cultural rights in the Highlands and Islands” as part of their on-going interest in rurality issues. I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

From the SHRC, I welcome Jan Savage, executive director; Oonagh Brown, participation and policy officer; and, joining us online, Cathy Asante, legal officer, human rights-based approach. You are all very welcome. I invite Jan to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

We will move on to questions from Pam Gosal.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

We have another question from Tess White.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2025 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, in session 6.

Before we begin, I would like to take a moment to pay tribute to Christina McKelvie MSP, who sadly passed away last week. As a previous convener of this committee and as an equalities minister, she was a fierce advocate for social justice and for human rights. She will be very sadly missed, but her legacy will go on, and we will always remember her, particularly through her work.

We have received no apologies today. Marie McNair will join us online.

Our first agenda item is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 3 to 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

Given that the coming home implementation plan has now ended, what mechanisms exist to hold decision makers accountable for the lack of progress?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

Cathy would like to come in.

11:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft] [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Karen Adam

We move on to questions from Paul O’Kane.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Karen Adam

There might be concerns about the financial cost of providing interpreters, as well as that space, for jurors. However, although providing interpreters comes with some costs, those costs were found to be manageable in England and Wales. The number of cases that require such support is expected to be small and the costs can be calculated to ensure sustainability. More important, investing in accessibility and inclusion absolutely brings long-term benefits by ensuring that our system is fair for all, regardless of disability.

Amendment 233 matters because everyone, regardless of disability, should have the right to serve on a jury. The amendment seeks to ensure that deaf jurors and others with communication impairments are not excluded from fulfilling that vital civic responsibility, and reflects our commitments to an equal justice system, where everyone can participate fully in legal processes without discrimination. The amendment is a step forward in ensuring that Scotland’s justice system is inclusive and accessible to all, by empowering jurors with disabilities to serve effectively and reaffirming our commitment to equality and fairness.

On a personal note, I am a child of a deaf adult—I am a CODA. For almost 50 years, my father has often relied on me or others to interpret for him, as he is a BSL user. Throughout my life, I have seen him and other members of the deaf community being excluded from various aspects of society, the access to which we, as hearing people, take for granted—we do not note it in our everyday lives.

That exclusion is regardless of their intellect or their good character. It is a shame that that happens. My amendment is not just about deaf people being included in society. Our justice system will benefit by including deaf people, and it will give us more access to a broader demographic within our society. I urge members of the committee to support this important amendment, because it will make our legal system more just and inclusive for all.

I move amendment 233.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Karen Adam

Yes, absolutely. It is for anybody who has a physical disability that impairs their ability to communicate and who needs to have supporters present with them. The supporters would have to take an oath during the deliberations and fully accept the inclusion of all signed support.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Karen Adam

In winding up, it is important to say that our step towards a more equal society is not something additional or added on at the end of anything. It is step by step that we make a more inclusive society. Whenever there is an opportunity to be more inclusive, we should take it. We should empower people with disabilities to serve effectively and fully in our society. I press amendment 233.

Amendment 233 agreed to.

Section 35—Verdict of guilty or not guilty and majority required for guilty verdict

Amendment 73 not moved.