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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Before we move on to questions from Pam Gosal, I have a question of my own. Taking on board everything that you have said so far, how can we demonstrate that minimum core obligations can be met with regard to how equality impact assessments work in all spheres of government?

In my previous life as a local councillor, we always looked at equality impact assessments at the end of the process, after reports had been presented to us. Emma Congreve said that the structures are not set up for what we are trying to achieve in this respect. I can see that the structures do not include equality impact assessments in those areas that we should be concerned about, which should feed into the building of services in the first place. Often, such assessments are add-ons, but it costs additional money to add things on, and when there are cutbacks, they are the first things to go.

I want to look at how that can be changed and how equality impact assessments can be embedded into the structure of all spheres of government from the very beginning. How do you see that happening? Would that be possible, and would it help with a human rights budgeting approach? We are looking at accountability for local government in that regard. For example, I have seen some equality impact assessments on the closure of sheltered housing complexes. When a council goes ahead with such a closure even though it is evident that it will have detrimental impacts, where is the accountability? What rights do people have? My question is about where equality impact assessments should sit and to what extent they can be used to provide that accountability.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

That was really helpful—thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

That is interesting—thank you.

We move on to questions from Pam Gosal.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you both very much. Cabinet secretary, is the Scottish Government still committed to human rights budgeting, and, if so, what does that look like?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Minister, you spoke about the equality and human rights budget advisory group. What progress has been made against the group’s recommendations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Has the equality data improvement programme been improving outcomes? Where are we with that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Maggie?

Apologies, but I did not hear what you said.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

I will kick off our questions and witnesses should indicate whether they want to come in and answer anything, as should members who have questions or want to ask supplementaries about anything that has been said.

What aspirations did you, as stakeholders, have for the Scottish Government’s progress towards taking a human rights budgeting approach over the course of this session of Parliament? Have those aspirations been met?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Good morning and welcome to the 18th meeting of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in 2025, session 6. We have apologies today from Rhoda Grant.

Our first agenda item is to agree to take agenda items 5 and 6 in private. Agenda item 5 is consideration of a work programme paper and item 6 will be consideration of the evidence that is taken by the committee during pre-budget scrutiny today. Do members agree to take those agenda items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you.

That brings us to the close of this evidence session. I thank everyone for their participation; it has been valuable for the committee in undertaking our scrutiny of human rights budgeting. We have a lot of information to take away. I thank the cabinet secretary and the minister for giving your time to enable us to do our accountability work on the issue. We will be in touch with the committee’s recommendations.

We now go into private to discuss the remaining items on our agenda.

12:09 Meeting continued in private until 12:53.