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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 January 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Marie McNair

I await the MIG report with interest.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Marie McNair

That is helpful. Stephen Sinclair, you touched on that earlier, so I do not think that you will want to come back in. Ruth Boyle, in your submission, and just a moment ago, you suggested that the Scottish child payment could be a building block of the minimum income guarantee. In what ways could the minimum income guarantee have a greater impact on child poverty than the Scottish child payment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Child Payment

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Marie McNair

Good morning, and thanks for your time. I will cover the issue of extending eligibility, which has been touched on briefly. Which changes to eligibility would have the greatest impact on reducing poverty?

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

I thank the member for the intervention. I actually thought that you were standing up to concede your obvious double standards, given your £28,000 expenses scandal, but obviously not.

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

An apology was good enough for the Tories then, but it is not now.

The motion is a partisan move. It is not one made out of integrity or any morals. If it was, surely the Tories would have more to say on the fact that their party presided over Boris Johnson’s partygate scandal, the PPE scandal, the lobbying scandal and the bullying claims about senior members of the Cabinet and the crashing of the economy that has inflicted hardship on so many—to give just a few examples.

The Tories are a party of misusing taxpayers’ money and making misleading statements. This is clearly a hypocritical, partisan and self-interested move. If our Tory colleagues cared so much about doing what is right, they surely would have called out those in their own party for all their wrongdoings over their decades in charge—but they do not and never will. [Interruption.] If they cared about what was right, they would not be presiding over the two-child policy and its abhorrent rape clause, they would have acted to ensure that WASPI women were fully compensated, and they would not have turned their backs—[Interruption.]

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

Michael Matheson made a mistake and has apologised for it. He has, rightly, repaid the roaming charges in full, with no cost to the public purse. Even though the investigation has been tainted when it comes to natural justice, what is proposed is one—

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

No, not just now. I have just started.

What is proposed is one of the largest sanctions in the history of this Parliament. Michael Matheson has shown genuine remorse and has taken full responsibility for the serious matters that occurred. No person, regardless of their position, is immune to making mistakes, but I recognise and agree that elected members must be held to a very high standard, and I agree that Michael Matheson clearly made mistakes. This was a mistake, and he has clearly paid the price. It is not a matter over which to resign as an MSP.

If the price of a mistake is resignation, Douglas Ross should have resigned a long time ago, but we know that this motion is really—

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

Okay.

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

My apologies, Presiding Officer.

It is the usual attempt, on the part of Mr Ross, to score political points instead of making a serious contribution to this Parliament, with aggressive, shouty behaviour that he should have left in the playground. Especially evident this time is the breathtaking hypocrisy contained in his contribution—which surely even he must have been aware of.

We remember when Mr Ross reluctantly apologised for the £28,000 expenses scandal debacle. There was no offer of resignation there—just a grovelling apology.

Meeting of the Parliament

Michael Matheson

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Marie McNair

I have taken an intervention. I am not taking any more.

There are two choices available to the Tories—was it a muddle or was it a fiddle? We accepted then Mr Ross’s version that it was just a muddle—but what a muddle it was. He was quoted in a newspaper article at the time as saying that he did not know why he failed to declare £28,000, and he added the following grovelling apology:

“This was a big mistake, by me, for which I’m deeply sorry. I know how badly I performed here and how much I’ve let people down and for that I’m very sorry.”