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Chamber and committees

Meeting of the Parliament

Meeting date: Tuesday, September 10, 2013


Contents


Topical Question Time


“Scotland’s Carbon Footprint 1998-2010”



1. To ask the Scottish Government what action it will take in relation to the 4 per cent increase in Scotland’s carbon footprint between 2009 and 2010, as noted in its report, “Scotland’s Carbon Footprint 1998-2010”. (S4T-00433)

The Minister for Environment and Climate Change (Paul Wheelhouse)

The most recent Scottish greenhouse gas footprint figures show that Scotland is reducing its global emissions impact over the longer term. Between 1998—the first year for which data were published—and 2007, Scotland’s carbon footprint increased by 15 per cent; since 2007 it has fallen just less than 19 per cent.

The rise in emissions between 2009 and 2010 is disappointing, but it should be seen in the context of the 19 per cent fall in 2009 and the particularly cold weather in 2010, which led to increases in emissions from household heating. We know that those emissions fell substantially the following year, so we are confident that we are on the right track.

The Scottish Government is committed to working to reduce domestic emissions. We are cutting waste and using resources more efficiently. We have published our second report on proposals and policies for meeting our climate change targets, annex C of which shows that through the impact of existing policies alone, even in the absence of greater ambition from the European Union, emissions would fall by more than the targets of Germany and Denmark.

Our new waste regulations will have an impact, by helping to reduce Scotland’s global emissions footprint through greater prevention and the reuse and recycling of materials, while reducing Scotland’s reliance on the world’s limited supply of primary resources.

In addition, the greener together campaign encourages people to lead more environmentally friendly lifestyles, our low-carbon networks support a range of community and business networks, to help to promote low-carbon living, and the climate challenge fund supports communities to reduce the emissions that they generate, through more efficient consumption of goods and services.

Claudia Beamish

I thank the minister for his detailed response. Time will tell whether the 4 per cent increase is a blip or the beginning of a trend in the wrong direction.

Given that this is a Scotland-wide and global climate justice issue, as was highlighted in time for reflection today, and given that production levels have fallen continually since 1990 while consumption has risen, what is the Scottish Government doing to increase domestic production, especially in new technologies that will help to drive forward our low-carbon economy?

Paul Wheelhouse

Claudia Beamish raises an important point. Clearly we are moving in the right direction on our domestic emissions, by which I mean those produced in Scotland, but there has been a reduction—albeit small—in our carbon footprint which, as the member has made clear, takes account of imports of goods and services that we buy from overseas.

Through organisations such as zero waste Scotland, we are trying to improve efficiency support for all businesses and public bodies and encourage them to reduce their own emissions. We are also leading sustainable procurement across the public sector and are bringing out new waste regulations to help reduce Scotland’s global emissions footprint through, as I have made clear, greater prevention, reuse and recycling.

I also highlight measures being taken by the 2020 climate group, which is working with the business community, typically larger businesses, to ensure that they are aware of the importance of reducing our carbon emissions and have access to all the information that they need in that respect from Government and other agencies.

Claudia Beamish

Can the minister give a bit more detail on the issue that I raised in my previous question about the increase in domestic production in relation to the manufacturing of new technologies that will help us with the low-carbon economy? I am aware of the issues that have been highlighted about waste and support to business, but my specific focus is the manufacturing of goods in this country rather than the importing of goods—although I am of course aware that we still have to import to some degree.

Paul Wheelhouse

That is a fair point and I apologise for not responding to it fully earlier. We are looking at measures that we as a society can take to move towards what has been described as a more circular economy. At the moment, a lot of recycled material requiring a relatively low level of processing goes abroad for use elsewhere. Our society has the opportunity to develop technology that can exploit the recycled material that our country generates through our zero waste strategy and use, process and add value to that material in Scotland, not only to generate jobs but to ensure that those natural resources, which are of course in processed form and are being recycled, are not wasted. Indeed, my colleague the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment is keen to explore and develop that issue.

Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

The figures suggest that, in percentage terms, household heating emissions were the same in 2010 as they were in 1998. What is the minister’s response to that and will he redouble efforts to boost home insulation throughout the country?

Paul Wheelhouse

Jamie McGrigor has correctly pointed to one of the key drivers of the 2010 figures. We are aware that roughly 1 million tonnes of CO2 of the increase was caused by domestic heating and it is a key issue for us in our attempts to reduce our carbon footprint.

As the member will be aware, through the combination of Scottish Government and green deal funding we are looking to step up investment in domestic energy efficiency measures to a total of about £200 million per annum. I hope that that will mark a step-change in improving the energy efficiency of domestic heating in Scotland and that the member will welcome such moves.

Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green)

The minister began by saying that Scotland is reducing its footprint in the longer term, but perhaps he would have been more accurate had he said that Scotland has been reducing its footprint over the long term and that, as Claudia Beamish has pointed out, we do not yet know whether that trend is continuing or has been reversed. If the minister does not share my concern about that question, will he at least accept that what this figure indicates is that the very last thing we need is economic policies that are designed to create a consumer-led recovery and that, instead, we need a great deal of focus on activities such as repair and reuse that do not show up in retail and gross domestic product figures?

Paul Wheelhouse

I certainly agree that we need to make more use of recycled and reused materials that are generated in Scotland, and the move to a more circular economy will help us to focus our minds on the opportunity for Scotland to enhance already existing areas of activity in the economy and to grow new capacity where needed to ensure that that can happen.

We are also trying to encourage more use of local and seasonal foods as well as trying to reduce the carbon footprint of Scotland’s food chain. I know that the member has welcomed such measures in the past, and I hope that with our attempts to have a more circular economy, to reduce our dependence on imported food products and to make more use of the wonderful food that we have in Scotland—indeed, food and drink fortnight is an appropriate time to make that point—we can minimise the amount of imported material that comes from more carbon-intensive sources.

Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con)

What steps is the Government taking to increase Scotland’s onshore gas production? I remind the minister that, by doing that, it could reduce our emissions over time, reduce Scotland’s carbon footprint and reduce the cost of energy for our hard-pressed domestic and business customers.

Paul Wheelhouse

I had better leave energy policy to Fergus Ewing, who is the relevant minister. However, I take the point about the need to minimise the carbon intensity of our energy supply. That is one reason why the Scottish Government has moved to a decarbonisation target for our electricity generation. I appreciate that that is a different subject from the one that the member raised, but it is about the overall consumption of electricity and energy in Scotland. We are trying to take a significant step in decarbonising electricity by 2030. I hope that the United Kingdom Government takes that on board and makes a similar move in setting its own targets.


Purchasing Managers’ Index Survey



2. To ask the Scottish Government what its response is to the recent Bank of Scotland Purchasing Managers’ Index survey.(S4T-00435)

The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Employment and Sustainable Growth (John Swinney)

The Scottish Government welcomes those figures, which are a further sign of continued strengthening in Scotland’s economy. The August Purchasing Managers’ Index recorded a record rate of expansion in business activity in Scotland, reporting that private sector output expanded for the 11th consecutive month and at the highest rate in the history of the Purchasing Managers’ Index. The reported growth was driven by both manufacturing and services, with the services sector growing at its fastest rate in 15 years.

Mike MacKenzie

There are encouraging figures in the survey, which should be welcomed on all sides of the chamber. However, they come in the context of the Chancellor of the Exchequer boasting that he will press on with his austerity measures, which have taken the United Kingdom through the worst recession in living memory. Tomorrow, the Scottish Government will publish its draft budget for the coming year. Does the cabinet secretary agree that, whatever measures it contains to support economic recovery and employment, Scotland remains hampered by the decisions that are being made for it at Westminster?

John Swinney

I have made no secret of the fact that I disagree fundamentally with the chancellor’s decision, in his management of the economy since 2010, to reduce our capital budget by 33 per cent, albeit that that has been tempered to a reduction of 26 per cent. That was the wrong step to take and it has constrained the Scottish economy’s ability to recover. The fact that we are now seeing strong and sustained levels of business confidence in the economy is very encouraging. I welcome that as an indication of the essential private sector commitment to work with the Government to grow the economy. That will remain at the heart of the Government’s response to the challenges that we face.

Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con)

Does the cabinet secretary not agree that, contrary to the carping that we have heard from Mr MacKenzie, these encouraging figures show that there is, in fact, no conflict between a policy of austerity and the delivery of economic growth and that we are looking forward to greater economic growth as we go forward?

John Swinney

I welcome Mr Fraser to his new post in the Conservative Party, in which he will deal with enterprise and energy issues, but I fundamentally disagree with him about the impact of austerity on the economy. I readily acknowledge the need to ensure that the public finances are restored to balance, but I do not understand why the chancellor has had to borrow in excess of £250 billion more than he planned to borrow to deal with austerity because his policies failed to deliver the level of growth that he and the Office for Budget Responsibility predicted would be delivered. I would have thought that a better strategy would have been to borrow to invest in the economy in order to generate the tax revenues that would come from keeping people in employment. That would have given us an earlier exit from the recession than we have managed to secure on behalf of the people of Scotland.