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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
If you cannot give the chief constable the £110 million that she has asked for just to stop the outflow of police officers and keep the service as it is, how can you say that it is a matter for the chief constable to worry about?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
I did not say that, by the way. I was just saying that the chief constable has been told that it will be a flat-cash settlement. You are saying that that is not the case—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
Or multiyear funding. Is it possible to look at that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
That is not an option.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
Thank you. I am a wee bit concerned, in that what I am hearing today and what I know about the scrutiny of the 2025 act give rise to a feeling of that things are not sitting together all that well. Next week, the committee will decide on all the regulations. If it decides in favour, there will have to be a rethink, and we will have to distil the information that you have given us, because you are saying slightly different things and we will need to piece that together.
I have always had a bit of concern about the current regulations and the 2025 act. As you know, Craig Naylor, I raised with you previously the problem that, if we do not get it right, the relationship between misconduct, gross misconduct, sacking officers and vetting could get very murky. You will be aware that the federation has now taken a case in which the officer was cleared of misconduct but has now not passed his vetting. Are you concerned, looking back, that the regulations are looking a bit messy?
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
The chief constable has asked for £110 million, which is a modest request, but she has been told by your department that she should operate on the basis of a flat-cash settlement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
Do you mean as well as having an independent chair? Are those two things?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
It is from Police Scotland’s submission to the committee. You might be familiar with the figure that I was familiar with, which is £1 billion, but £2 billion was the figure in the submission to the committee.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
Is your position that the figure is £290 million?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2026
Pauline McNeill
I am sorry to interrupt—I am not trying to be rude—but we have limited time. I am clear in my mind, but I want to see where you stand on this. We can argue about what the figure is another time. I put this question to Ivan McKee, too. Surely, in public service reform, the Government must accept that significant savings have already been made through the centralisation of police and fire services. Ivan McKee’s letter alludes to that. I am talking about the police in particular at the moment. Are there really any more savings that can be made?