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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

On the point about giving that opportunity to children, witnesses have told us that early intervention is key. Do you agree with that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Stacey Gourlay, do you want to come in on that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Convener, I have one last question, which is question 13. Should I come back in after questions 11 and 12, or would you like me to ask it now?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

That is fine.

Again, this question is for Stacey Gourlay and Rachel Tardito. Another issue that frequently came up was the difficulty of accessing national health services. I have a constituent who has waited months to access audiology appointments through the national health service. Those are people who just need hearing aids, but the situation is even more challenging for someone with complete hearing loss. Witnesses have called for the NHS to be better joined up with local authorities to create a more coherent plan and give deaf people a better chance in life. How can that be done?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

It is good to hear that you are engaging with Falkirk Council and working together. That was one of the issues that came up with witnesses. They felt that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing because they are not working together.

You might not know the answer, but are all boards working with councils or is that just something that Falkirk Council is doing with your board?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you very much.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

The question is around there not being enough BSL support in rural areas. A couple of weeks ago, we heard from a witness who was a survivor of domestic abuse. What should people like that do, especially if they stay in rural areas such as Argyll and Bute? How would they get that service?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning, Deputy First Minister and officials. Thank you for all the information that you have provided so far. I will turn my question around a little bit because you have been talking about education; I will come in on education first.

In private evidence sessions, the committee heard from deaf pupils and parents who said that, in many cases, pupils placed in mainstream schools face difficulties, because there are not enough BSL specialists, and teachers are not properly equipped to deal with the needs of deaf pupils. One of the pupils who we spoke to said that it was difficult to keep up with the work and, therefore, she failed her exams. Witnesses expressed their disappointment with the Government’s Education (Scotland) Bill, saying that it does not deliver for deaf people.

It would be great to hear from you, Deputy First Minister, on how we can improve the outcomes for deaf children. Alison and Robert have said that quite a bit of work is being done, and it would be good to hear about that, but, as Dr Robert Adam said earlier, what are the ramifications of not delivering? Accountability is needed; otherwise, deaf people are just being paid lip service. This is clearly a big issue, and I would like to hear your plans to sort it.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

The committee has also heard that deaf people are faced with barriers in relation to the issue of poor mental health. Mental health services for people with full hearing are already strained and experience regular budget cuts, and those services are further stretched in rural areas. Imagine how bad they are for deaf people in those areas. In addition, with regard to education, some pupils may have to move to different schools or different areas entirely, or even pay for private tuition. How might consistency in the BSL plans be improved across Scotland?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you for that, Deputy First Minister. The people who we heard from said that school teachers should be qualified to level 3 in BSL and that there are opportunities for more deaf or deafblind people to teach or help in the system. Those may be things for you to look at.

Two weeks ago, the committee heard from Lucy Clark, who is a deaf survivor of domestic abuse. She said that there are only three BSL-trained domestic abuse advocates in Scotland, all of whom are based in Dundee. Lucy said that finding an interpreter is always at the forefront of a deaf woman’s mind and that many interpreters find it challenging to cover areas of domestic abuse. Deaf women already face so many day-to-day challenges and it is even more harrowing to know that, when a woman needs support the most, it is not there. What is being done to help women such as Lucy?