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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Lorna Slater

I will not ask everyone to come in on every question if they do not have anything to add.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Lorna Slater

I will ask a few different questions, if the convener will indulge me. I will start on the point about careers advice, which we have just been covering, and move on to the flexibility of the system. I will then close on apprenticeships, because I know that some of my colleagues have questions about those.

We have touched on some of the solutions to the joining-up problem that Sandy Begbie highlighted, whereby we have this enormous potential and need for skills opportunities in Scotland but both young people and mid-career transitioners are not finding them or are not aware of them. In my younger days, when I was a young STEM ambassador—I am an electrical and mechanical engineer—I went into schools to talk to kids about engineering. I would show them pictures of the work that we were doing, and it was very far removed from their experience, especially in more deprived areas. The kids had aspirations to be dog walkers; they could not imagine themselves operating machinery, let alone designing it. There is a gap midway between jobs requiring a master’s degree in engineering and being a dog walker, which we do not seem to be filling.

I have frequently heard criticism about careers advice. Sandy Begbie said that it is patchy, and Paul Campbell said that the DYW co-ordinators are not there. Is that the missing piece of the puzzle? How important is that work?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you very much. I will hand back to the convener and let other members pick up on the subject of apprenticeships.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Lorna Slater

Okay—so it is the same.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

No, that is fine. The second part was about transparency and accountability, and I think that you covered that—unless you want to add more detail.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

For completeness, how are their budgets allocated and how is scrutiny of the Crown entities done?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

Where does scrutiny of their performance and functions go?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

Brilliant—thank you very much.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

So, for example, the rent for their premises would come out of their budgets. The premises are not provided directly by the Parliament or through Government buildings. Is that correct?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Lorna Slater

One of the topics that we have been talking about is the constituent experience. If you have a problem—if something has gone wrong with a public service—where do you go? In Scotland, the question is whether you speak to the ombudsman or the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland. How does that work in New Zealand? If something has gone wrong, how does a New Zealand citizen know where to go? Is there a front page, a dashboard or a one-stop shop from which they can be correctly directed to the Ombudsman or the Human Rights Commission, for example?