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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Lorna Slater

I have a couple of specific questions on which, I hope, you will be able to give some information. I am interested to hear how you feel about the business and regulatory impact assessments, with respect to the review that has been part of the process. Do they properly and adequately incorporate the benefits of co-operative and other inclusive and democratic business models? If they do not, what changes need to be made to the BRIAs to make sure that those benefits are accounted for?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Lorna Slater

My final question is more for Colin and Sara. Within your organisations, you must have members that are co-operatives and other more democratic business models. Do you sense that there is a difference in how they participate and in the kind of support that they get?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Lorna Slater

The witnesses have sort of answered what was going to be my second question, so I will deviate a bit.

When you notice challenges, whether those are as simple as a drop-down menu—although I know that such things are never simple—or an issue such as Business Gateway or the enterprise agencies just not directing people down that path, who do you go to? I ask because you were not part of the new deal for business group, so do you have a mechanism to flag that up and say to Scottish Enterprise that it has not included you?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Lorna Slater

It seems that there are two themes developing. One is around how we mainstream those businesses. That probably means getting Business Gateway, the enterprise agencies and so on to make sure that they are included. I would be interested to hear from witnesses whether they have ideas on how mainstreaming could be better achieved. Please feel free to write to us later, in relation to that.

The other theme is innovation, so there is the point about mainstreaming of existing practice, and a point about opening up the space for innovation in other business models, as well. Does that seem to capture it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Lorna Slater

I am very interested in what you are saying. It is really useful, and thank you for being so candid with us.

You mentioned in your opening remarks that some of your work is similar to the casework that MSPs undertake when supporting our constituents. In that sense, I suppose that we can imagine that you are facing in the same direction as Parliament, which is holding Government and public services to account and supporting people with their interactions with them. You also report to Parliament. Do you see yourself as an extension of the capabilities of Parliament? Where do you think that you fit into the wider landscape and in the structure of public trust?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Lorna Slater

That is very helpful. I have one last question. If we look at this from the perspective of someone who wants to make a complaint and from a the customer experience perspective, the landscape is quite complicated as to who to go to if someone wants to whistleblow, to complain about a parliamentarian and so on. We have discussed with previous witnesses the idea of having a one-stop shop for complaints as a hypothetical umbrella office of public trust. It does not matter what has gone wrong, people would have one place to go to. That organisation would combine all the supported bodies and the whistleblowing functions. All those things would be in one place. What is your view of a hypothetical one-stop shop as an office of public trust that combines some of those functions?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Lorna Slater

We are auditing audits.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Lorna Slater

Thank you very much.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Lorna Slater

You said that you do not get a lot of complaints about Parliament. We have taken evidence from the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland, and they told us that they get quite a lot of them. That interesting point is a large part of what we are discussing—that is, there are different places to go depending on who someone wants to complain about, but clearly there is overlap if someone can bring a complaint to more than one of those bodies.