The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Our main agenda item is further consideration of the Auditor General for Scotland’s report on the Scottish National Investment Bank, which came out earlier this year. We have previously taken evidence from representatives of the bank and, before that, we took evidence from the Auditor General and his team. This morning, we are joined by Scottish Government representatives to give us their views on the report and to answer our questions. I am pleased to welcome to the committee Gregor Irwin, who is the director general for economy. Alongside Mr Irwin is Richard Rollison, who is the director for international trade and investment. We are also joined by Andy Hogg, who is the deputy director for investment and financial services.
As I said, we have a number of questions to put to you, director general, but, before we get to those, I invite you to give us a short opening statement.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed. I take it that you accept in full each of the report’s recommendations.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Mr Hogg, do you want to give us more information about the workings of the business investment group?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay, but we, as a committee, have been interested in the balance between those bigger transnational corporation investments and investments in small and medium-sized enterprises. The figure quoted in the report, which was supplied to the Auditor General by the bank, is that 92.3 per cent of all investments have been made in SMEs; however, that does not sound right, because we know about the Gresham House Forestry Fund, Quantum at Ardersier and so on. The figure for investment that we have arrived at is nearer to a 60:40 balance between SMEs and non-SMEs. I do not know whether you can verify that.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Well, is it a yes or a no—what is the Scottish Government’s position?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay—I understand that you may need to leave us now.
On that last point, Mr Denholm announced on 10 April that he was planning to step down, and today is 10 September, which is five months later. What stage is the bank at in the recruitment of his replacement?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
Do you expect that, by the six-month mark—10 October—there will be an announcement about who the new chief executive officer for the Scottish National Investment Bank is?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
You said—and I think that it is recorded in the Auditor General’s report—that the bank is well governed. However, when the Auditor General gave evidence to the committee on 28 May, he also said that overgovernance is
“a real risk to be managed.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 May 2025; c19.]
I have listened to the description of the various bits of apparatus, some of which are described in exhibit 3 of the Auditor General’s report. There is a business investment group; a Scottish Government ministerial advisory group; the board of the National Investment Bank itself; and there is this figure who acts as a provider of independent oversight and who, as you have described it, liaises. There is a danger, is there not, that, at a strategic level, and even possibly at an operational level, there are lots of cooks who might spoil the broth?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
But you are vigilant, no doubt.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 September 2025
Richard Leonard
I do not want to labour this point but, just for clarity, my understanding, from reading the Auditor General’s report and then from the exchanges that we had with the chair of the bank back in June, was that the Treasury was undertaking a discrete review to look at the rules, and possibly the legislative framework, around these public financial institutions, which are presumably the PuFins that you are talking about—the National Wealth Fund and so on.
Has such a discrete review started? Has it been completed? Have recommendations been made and are the chancellor or Treasury officials now musing over those, or have they decided, or what? When Mr Beattie asked Mr Rollison about the timetable, it was all a bit woolly. However, the recommendation in the report is that, within three months of those recommendations, action should be taken.