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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

That was really just giving the convener an opportunity to manage expectations.

We talked briefly about the civil service and having a neutral secretariat. I hope that the civil service provides that anyway.

One aspect that I want to explore is the role of the civil service. We have talked about the lack of consistency in how information is provided. Is there a concern that, once a Government has been in place for quite a long time—as we saw with the last UK Government being in for 14 years and the current Scottish Government being in for 18 years—the civil service becomes more tied to the Government of the day and, therefore, the independence of the civil service is impacted in some way?

I will come to Dr Anderson first, and then to whoever else might want to comment on that.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

You mentioned consistency. There is a lack of consistency among the various groups. Something that lays out a timeline in more detail would be helpful.

Convener, I do not want to deny Stephen Kerr the 100 questions that he still has to go.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you. That is helpful.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

So, essentially, the aim of Government should be to publish what is available, except perhaps under exceptional circumstances.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Good morning. I want to look at some of the practical aspects. We have just been discussing some of the suggestions that have come up. I had an angle that I was going to look at, but some of our witnesses’ contributions have sent me off in different directions so I hope that I will be able to bring some focus to my questioning.

I will come to Professor McEwen first. We have just been discussing timings, transparency and awareness. I am not aware whether the Scottish Government has to publish a list of meetings that ministers will have each week. Are you aware of anything like that? I am imagining something almost like a court circular, which says, “The Minister for X will be meeting Y.”

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you. Do any of the other panellists want to comment?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Is that reporting done ahead of meetings or after they have been held?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

I was wondering whether a process was already in place whereby, once a meeting was proposed or confirmed, the details went online and there was a duty to provide the relevant information and the minutes.

That moves me on to another point about concerns over the recording of what actually happens. The panel has said that what is published or provided is not always particularly detailed. Do we know whether that information is recorded in detail, but we are seeing only a small part of it? In some cases is there a concern that the focus on providing full information is perhaps not being undertaken?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

Thank you very much. Dr Anderson, do you want to come in on that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Jamie Halcro Johnston

The day-to-day work—the bread and butter of IGR—is probably happening in a better way than we can see. From our point of view, as parliamentarians, the issue is that we are not seeing enough of it, or enough of the decision-making processes at the front of it all.