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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

One such measure would be highlighting the huge issues that women on remand face. There are still far too many women on remand and in custody. Although we are 10 years on from the Angiolini report, which concluded that we have to stop locking women up for low-level offences, that is still happening. There are many causes of such offending—addiction problems, mental health problems, chaotic lifestyles and so on—and, at that level, prison is not the place for women. Our objective is to keep pressing the issue and to look at what are pretty radical new ways of keeping women out of prison. After all, prison does not help them; indeed, it just makes the situation that they find themselves in much worse, given the mental health effects, and so on. Moreover, it affects not just them but the wider family and their children. Only 5 per cent of children whose mother is in prison remain in the family home, which indicates how disruptive such an approach is. We are focusing on all aspects of how the situation could be improved and on how a much more holistic method might be brought in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Yes.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That was part of the work of the previous group, and, now that the units are nearing completion, we are very keen to press the need for contact between mothers and children. We are asking for mother-and-baby units to be part of these establishments in order to allow mothers to bond with their babies instead of being separated from them. As I said, it has been part of our work—we have taken evidence on it from the Scottish Prison Service on many occasions—and we very much see such work as on-going and necessary.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

It is Collette Stevenson.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Our focus is on all aspects of women in the justice system. Far too many women in prison have mental health problems or have been victims of domestic abuse and are brain injured. There are huge issues that we need to look at. The cross-party group on women’s justice made a start on that work in the previous parliamentary session, and I hope that, in this session, we can dig deep into the issues and try to effect a lot of change.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That was the word that you used. Can you expand on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I want to ask Superintendent Conway about the police referral system and the factors that are taken into account when deciding what action to take. I will then discuss the Scottish Drug Deaths Taskforce with Neil Richardson.

Superintendent Conway, can you give us an idea of how many referrals to services are made when your officers encounter someone who has been using drugs? I am not asking for an exact figure; I would just like to know the approximate level of such referrals. What do your officers look for? Could you tell us a wee bit about how they make that judgment at the time?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Are you saying that, when you make referrals, you are told that no one is available to take the people concerned? Is that what you mean? How do you know that your partners are struggling?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you for that.

I go back to the fact that the submission from Sacro and Shine says:

“63% of all prison referrals in Shine related to women on remand.”

That is a high number. Some of those women are seriously addicted at that point. Do you agree that prison is not the place for women who have committed low-level offences because of their addiction problem?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I am conscious of time so I will finish there.