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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Yes. Thank you, convener.

Mary, what is your view on the provisions to protect children as victims of abuse, including domestic abuse, in the Children (Scotland) Act 2020, the Vulnerable Witnesses (Criminal Evidence) (Scotland) Act 2019 and so on? Could more be done in legislation to protect children?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

That was a very useful discussion about the barnahus and I am delighted to hear about the progress that has been made so far. I endorse all the comments on that. We have perhaps explored that enough, so I will move on to another topic.

My question is for Sean Duffy. How has Covid impacted the good work that you do in getting people on the right pathways and helping to reduce reoffending? I am keen to know how women are going through the process. What success are you having in getting employment pathways for women?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Do you have an approximate gender breakdown of the people whom you help? What is the male to female ratio?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

That is correct.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims’ Rights and Victim Support

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you so much for coming back to me on that. It is much appreciated.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Diversion from Prosecution

Meeting date: 22 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Can the Lord Advocate outline the considerations that led to the decision to expand the scope of the recorded police warnings scheme? We have heard about police forces in England that divert individuals for possession offences at the point of arrest. Can the Lord Advocate outline why that process cannot be adopted in Scotland?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Covid-19 Update

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Can the First Minister advise on updates to guidance on contact tracing following positive cases in schools and registered childcare settings?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prisons and Prison Policy

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Rona Mackay

I completely agree.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Prisons and Prison Policy

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Rona Mackay

I put on record how much I agree with what Bruce Adamson said about keeping children out of prison. The situation is clear cut and urgent. I agree on that for all the reasons that he articulated.

My questions are on the number of women prisoners and are directed to Wendy Sinclair-Gieben and Dr Katrina Morrison. It is nearly 10 years since Dame Elish Angiolini’s report on women offenders but we seem to have made little if any progress on the number of women prisoners. Earlier this month, the total female population was 290, including 93 remand prisoners. We know that women are often victims of abuse or have experienced trauma, and we know the disruption that is caused to families. Why are the numbers still so high? Are alternatives to custody not being used enough? Why do we not seem to have made a lot of progress on the matter?

Criminal Justice Committee

Reducing Youth Offending, Offering Community Justice Solutions and Alternatives to Custody

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Rona Mackay

Professor Lesley McAra and other witnesses have talked about the reasons why that should happen, and why it may not be happening, and I agree with them. We have also talked about the provision of secure care; I would like to explore secure care in general as an alternative to incarceration in prisons or in young offenders institutions. The witnesses will probably have heard Bruce Adamson’s powerful evidence in the round-table session earlier. He said that children should never be in prison—I agree with that, and I suspect that others do too.

The submissions from Fiona Dyer and Ashley Cameron express great concern about that, and point out that those settings are not appropriate for children. They certainly do not reflect the recommendations in “The Promise” report or the whole-system approach, nor do they fit in with the getting it right for every child agenda. We know that there can often be tragic outcomes for children in those settings.

Ashley Cameron, you made a powerful submission. Secure care can offer a holistic setting with trauma-informed care and can provide training for young people. What are your thoughts on that? Fiona Dyer and Diane Dobbie have both said that there are legislative barriers to the use of secure care. I would like to tease that out a wee bit.